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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.05.02 11:01:00 -
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I'll just chip in that Whitehound is the confused one in this thread. He's confusing Deep Space Transports with Blockade Runners and Blockade Runners with Cov Ops.
Borgh, Tau, and Revii are entirely correct.
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.05.02 11:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Whitehound
Initially, were the T2 transporters with +2 warp strength called Blockade Breakers, not Deep Space Transports, and the Blockade Runners were called Covert Ops transporters, because of their ability to fit covert ops cloaks. I did not know that this has changed and assumed the "Blockade Runner" was refering to the "Blockade Breaker". Still, I am not the one feeling confused. I only learn new things. 
You're confusing yourself, and attempting to rationalise it. Fact is, the 'initial' situation you're trying to explain your confusion with never existed. You just remembered it wrong.
Old situation:
Blockade runners: warp strength bonus
Deep Space Transports: tank bonus
No cloaking transport ship.
New situation (as of Quantum Rise):
Blockade Runners: lost warp strength bonus, gained cloaking ability
Deep Space Transports: gained warp strength bonus (kept tank bonus)
See the relevant Dev Blog.
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.05.02 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Estel Arador on 02/05/2010 11:43:18
Originally by: Whitehound
Why would you compare these two? They have quite different roles.
They have different roles, and they have similar roles.
A Blockade Runner is used for hauling all kinds of stuff, a Cov Ops is used for Scanning and for *gasp* hauling high-value, low volume stuff.
Both a Blockade Runner and Cov Ops can warp cloaked, both have high agility and (relatively) high warp speed. A Cov Ops has higher values for those things than a BR, but it also has a smaller cargohold and less hitpoints.
Is there anything else you'd like to know?
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Originally by: Whitehound
@Dieter and Estel: I am really not bother by your opinion. They were called Blockade Breakers.
I find it incredible that any ship type has been referred to only half a dozen times in the history of EVE. There are 14 (fourteen) posts on EVE Search referring to "Blockade Breakers". Three of those posts are in this thread, at least 4 are referring to the act of breaking a blockade, not a ship type.
What's the difficulty with saying "I was mistaken."?
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.05.02 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
I know their uses, Estel, but why would someone compare a hauler with a frigate? You cannot haul with a frigate what a hauler can.
And you cannot do it as fast with a hauler as a frigate can.
The tradeoff is:
high cargo, low speed
low cargo, high speed
What a comparison allows you to do is to decide if the advantage of a higher X offsets the disadvantage of a lower Y.
In you reasoning, a freighter would be the best ship for hauling anything (even BPOs and salvage materials) since it has the highest cargo.
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.05.02 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
A small hint: the question needs to be answered by the OP. Not by you, Estel. He needs to figure out what it is he wants to haul. Worst case for him is that he has no need for either ships and may as well be training something differently.
Again you're a bit confused. You seem to think our little discussion has anything to with the OP, while in fact it doesn't. Me lecturing you on the comparison between Blockade Runners and Cov Ops as haulers should not be confused with an attempt to address the question asked by the OP. OP doesn't want to use his Cov Ops as a hauler, his question was "have you any input why I should train the cov op instead, or additionaly?". That question has been answered sufficiently by others, that's why I'm indulging in attempting to educate you. I fear I have failed though.
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